Ram ID? links to pics included

[justinb013]

I've been told that I have hybrid rams. Can anyone confirm or discredit this for me?

Male in the foreground
http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL701/2897759/5848720/75068411.jpg

Female guarding eggs
http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL701/2897759/5848720/75068494.jpg

Thanks,

Justin

(edited to merely link to pics)

 

[Mike Wise]

It looks like M. ramirezi to me. It might be a cross between a couple of color morphs, but it's hard to say since there are variations on colors in wild populations. This certainly doesn't make it a hybrid - a cross between 2 species. Love your photo of the female w/eggs on the leaf, BTW.

 

[justinb013]

cool- I wasn't sure if they were or not, someone who saw the same pics on another forum said

Those rams are hybrids. blue/german x bolivian by the looks of it. I wouldn't be too excited about growing out any fry

so I figured I would get more opinions. I bought about 8 of em at a local auction for a buck each, so I was not sure if they were hybrid, nor overly concerned as my investment in them was small.

Here are some more pics for ya.

female w/eggs 2
http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL701/2897759/5848720/75068480.jpg

whole tank:
http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL701/2897759/5848720/75068360.jpg

lone male:
http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL701/2897759/5848720/75068386.jpg

 

[Apistt_ed]

To me it's likely from the cross of a wild columbian ram strain that will have more of the orange color and one of the asian strains which seem stouter and taller at the shoulders than the wild rams. This is widely practiced to see what can be produced, especially in Asia where the balloon rams have come from natural deformaties found in the wild and the Asian strain itself. I have never heard of Altispinosa and Ram crosses but it might be possible... who knows? But it's very likely not the ones you have. Your female shows absolutely beautiful coloration in the caudal tail with the edges of it red/orange. I would love to see how the fry look like. CONGRATS on the spawn!!


john

 

[Randall]

Mikrogeophagus ramirezi

Hello Justin,

Welcome to our forum!

No, your Mikrogeophagus ramirezi don't look like hybrids to me but rather an aquarium strain...and a beautiful one at that!

Thank you for sharing your photos with us. Yours is a gorgeous tank.

Good luck!

Randall Kohn

 

[justinb013]

Thanks for all the replies and compliments... I feel better now. The consensus here and elsewhere has been "Nope, thos are NOT hybrids..." Never hurts to get additional opinions.

 

[cubsfan]

Great looking pictures!!! Your tank looks awesome. Congratulations!