Apistogramma juruensis

[shoshone]

Few pictures of these rare and beautiful fish.:biggrin:

 

[Cor]

Not to much colour but never the less a very nice species of Apistogramma. Unfortunally only the colourful apistogramma's appeal to the public and only apisto-lovers (like myself) appriciate this kind of fish.

 

[Mike Wise]

I hope you didn't pay juruensis prices for this fish. It looks like a wild form of A. cacatuoides to me. The true A. juruensis has a distinctly separate caudal spot and regularly spaced vertical rows of spots on the caudal fin. The wavy abdominal stripes are not as wide as on the typical A. juruensis, too.

 

[Linus_Cello]

Nancy, where did you get these from? I got a "false" jurunese" (black-chin/Schwarzkin) male from Shark Aquarium when I was in NJ last month. Would love to find some females. I guess maybe I should post a pic up for confirmation.

 

[shoshone]

I hope you didn't pay juruensis prices for this fish. It looks like a wild form of A. cacatuoides to me. The true A. juruensis has a distinctly separate caudal spot and regularly spaced vertical rows of spots on the caudal fin. The wavy abdominal stripes are not as wide as on the typical A. juruensis, too.

I paid very law prices for this fish as with all others that I have in my possession. I am a lucky man !
They are very young maybe the typical patern is not yet well defined ?
I thought they could be "blackchin" but I hadn 't thought about cacatuoides.

For Linus, i get this from north-east of france.
Nancy is the name of my city

 

[ste12000]

I recently imported a box of 'Juruensis', i know enough to not expect the true juruensis and was hoping for A.sp 'blackchin' instead like ive had in the past... I ended up with a box of wild cacatuoides which i could of got for half the price of what i actually paid!!! Nice fish but expensive compared to what i could of imported A.cacatuoides for!!

Moral of the story! Dont trust the exporter or retailer when it comes to naming Apistos!!

 

[Mike Wise]

It is always possible to be wrong when using only photos. I think that it is very unlikely that the caudal spot will separate from the lateral band as the fish grows, however. This characteristic is seen even on immature A. juruensis.

 

[apistodave]

I think cacatuoides too--I brought some nice Jurus back from Germany last wrek that Uwe collected in Peru this summer--caudal spot all that like Mike says

 

[shoshone]

Thanks you gentlemen. Can you change the title of this post, please ? Too sad...

 

[Mike Wise]

David, I wonder how Uwe could get the true A. juruensis from Peru. It only is found in the middle Rio Juruá near Cruzeiro, Brazil. Methinks that Uwe's fish are more likely A. sp. Schwarzkinn/Black-chin.

 

[apistodave]

Mike thats one I am not getting into--I also brought back elizabtehtae, cinalabra, one Undes apisto and one undes small aequidens, really a nice fish

 

[Mike Wise]

I'd be interested to see photos of the undescribed species.

 

[Melanochromis]

David, I wonder how Uwe could get the true A. juruensis from Peru. It only is found in the middle Rio Juruá near Cruzeiro, Brazil.

Is that area difficult to access and collect fish?
Can I ask if A. sp. "Cruzeiro" ("Jurua") is also from the same area and perhaps this is the reason it is a rare fish too?

 

[apistodave]

I'd be interested to see photos of the undescribed species.

When I can-I will Mike

 

[Mike Wise]

Is that area difficult to access and collect fish?

No, access is easy by plane; by boat it takes a long time to get there from anywhere. It is just so far from normal commercial collecting localities that it really isn't worth the expense for commercial collectors.

Can I ask if A. sp. "Cruzeiro" ("Jurua") is also from the same area and perhaps this is the reason it is a rare fish too?

Yes, but A. sp. Cruzeiro is found closer to the town of Cruzeiro do Sul. I feel that both species are rare in the hobby because they are not only rarely collected, but also are not really easy to reproduce.

 

[Melanochromis]

Thanks for the information. I hope some day it'd be easier for collectors to get more fish there. I'd love to see a real Juruensis someday.

Yes, but A. sp. Cruzeiro is found closer to the town of Cruzeiro do Sul. I feel that both species are rare in the hobby because they are not only rarely collected, but also are not really easy to reproduce.

Honestly I think they are quite prolific, likely on par with the cacatuoides. Although the frequency of spawning is slightly less often than the caca, but the brood is usually larger. Even a first-time mom can give you more than 50 fry. At the moment, I have more than 200 A. Sp. "Cruzeiro" of various ages in 7 tanks. That's way too many considering that I live in a small apartment. Now I have to strictly separate males and females and never let them be in the same tanks.

 

[Mike Wise]

Too bad you do not live in Europe or North America. You would have a gold mine on your hands.

 

[Melanochromis]

Too bad you do not live in Europe or North America. You would have a gold mine on your hands.

็ำ้ำHehe. I wish I live in one of those places.
Too bad the Thai market is very small. I've sold about 25 pairs of this species and now everyone here already has them.

 

[Ruki]

Melanochromis, what about nice holidays in Poland? But you have to bring some of Cruzeiro with you.

 

[apistodave]

David, I wonder how Uwe could get the true A. juruensis from Peru. It only is found in the middle Rio Juruá near Cruzeiro, Brazil. Methinks that Uwe's fish are more likely A. sp. Schwarzkinn/Black-chin.

Here is a fish Uwe and I call--the "Big Boys" it's a personal thing