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Been lurking around the forum for a while but finally registered. Much respect to to knowledgeable and well mannered people here.
Here is some background info on the tank in question.
It is a community tank with 8 live plants and 4 fake. 3/4 of the tank has rough gravel and 1/4 is fine sand substrate.
Tank
75gal
Filtration
2 AC300, 3 foam blocks, 2 bags fluval peat granuals
1 150gph powerhead with AC polishing filter
Lighting
2 40watt flo strips
Water
Tap (aged) PH 8, GH 9, KH 8
Tank PH 7, AM 0, NI 0, GH 4, KH 5
Inhabitants
1f Pearl Gourami (3 inch)
1f 3 Spot Gourami (3 inch)
1f 3 Opaline Gourami (3 inch)
1m Sparkling Gourami (2 inch)
2 Clown Loachs (2 inch)
1 Black ghost knife (3 inch)
1 Clown pleco (2 inch)
1 Common pleco (5 inch)
1 Dwarf Frog
1f Tateurndina ocellicauda or Peacock Gudgeon (1 inch)
1m Microgeophagus ramirezi or Blue Ram (1.5 inch)
1m A. Cacutuoides 'Double Red' (1.5 inch)
7 Neon Tetras
1 Badis Badis 'Scarlet' (.5 inch)
I hadn't lost a single fish in months and now it seem as though I'm on a spree. I purchased a male A. Panduro (a mistake at this point) a couple of weeks ago. He set up his territory but displaced a male A. Borelii 'blue steel' (cheap hybrid) in the process. I had another A. Borelii that took advantage of the displacement of the 'Blue Steel'.
Both of my A. Boreliis and my A. Panduro are now dead. The A. Cacutuoides is loving his life though. The 'blue steel' vanished for 2 days. I suspected that he was hiding out but I was wrong. I found his body 2 days after I noticed his absense. Then my A. Panduro did the same thing. Dissapeared for 2 days and wound up dead.
Both of these fish were dead in the water for WAY TOO LONG and I know this. I looked and looked and even disturbed the rocks and plants looking for them but to no avail. They were never pulled to the intakes of the filters and were never floating. The just finally turned up half eaten.
Last night my A. Borelii died. I witnessed it so I was able to remove his body immediatly.
I know that if a sick fish dies in your tank and you do not remove it immediatly that other fish are going to get sick. This is the case here.
After every fish death I have made a 20% water change in addition to my weekly 20% change.
I am now seeing signs of sickness in some of the remaining inhabitants but there is no clear cut disease. The symptoms resemble ICH but there are no physical signs of ICH and all of the fish are not showing the same sypmtoms. Some are rubbing, some breathing hard, some gasping at the surface. All of the remaing fish are eating well and moving around in normal fashion. Some of them are showing no signs of ill effects at all. I am worried that the pathogen that has killed is still in there.
Questions
1. Is there any product that I can treat this tank with that will not harm the Loachs, Knife, or frog? I have a qurantine tank set up but the levels are not right yet for a transfer.
2. Who should I transfer to the quarantine tank?
3. Is there a good way of finding dead fish. I am at a loss. When one would not show up at feeding time I would spend hours looking for them, dead or alive.
4. Is there any hope for this tank or would you suggest a full tear down and rebuild?
Thanks in advance,
-Kyle
Here is some background info on the tank in question.
It is a community tank with 8 live plants and 4 fake. 3/4 of the tank has rough gravel and 1/4 is fine sand substrate.
Tank
75gal
Filtration
2 AC300, 3 foam blocks, 2 bags fluval peat granuals
1 150gph powerhead with AC polishing filter
Lighting
2 40watt flo strips
Water
Tap (aged) PH 8, GH 9, KH 8
Tank PH 7, AM 0, NI 0, GH 4, KH 5
Inhabitants
1f Pearl Gourami (3 inch)
1f 3 Spot Gourami (3 inch)
1f 3 Opaline Gourami (3 inch)
1m Sparkling Gourami (2 inch)
2 Clown Loachs (2 inch)
1 Black ghost knife (3 inch)
1 Clown pleco (2 inch)
1 Common pleco (5 inch)
1 Dwarf Frog
1f Tateurndina ocellicauda or Peacock Gudgeon (1 inch)
1m Microgeophagus ramirezi or Blue Ram (1.5 inch)
1m A. Cacutuoides 'Double Red' (1.5 inch)
7 Neon Tetras
1 Badis Badis 'Scarlet' (.5 inch)
I hadn't lost a single fish in months and now it seem as though I'm on a spree. I purchased a male A. Panduro (a mistake at this point) a couple of weeks ago. He set up his territory but displaced a male A. Borelii 'blue steel' (cheap hybrid) in the process. I had another A. Borelii that took advantage of the displacement of the 'Blue Steel'.
Both of my A. Boreliis and my A. Panduro are now dead. The A. Cacutuoides is loving his life though. The 'blue steel' vanished for 2 days. I suspected that he was hiding out but I was wrong. I found his body 2 days after I noticed his absense. Then my A. Panduro did the same thing. Dissapeared for 2 days and wound up dead.
Both of these fish were dead in the water for WAY TOO LONG and I know this. I looked and looked and even disturbed the rocks and plants looking for them but to no avail. They were never pulled to the intakes of the filters and were never floating. The just finally turned up half eaten.
Last night my A. Borelii died. I witnessed it so I was able to remove his body immediatly.
I know that if a sick fish dies in your tank and you do not remove it immediatly that other fish are going to get sick. This is the case here.
After every fish death I have made a 20% water change in addition to my weekly 20% change.
I am now seeing signs of sickness in some of the remaining inhabitants but there is no clear cut disease. The symptoms resemble ICH but there are no physical signs of ICH and all of the fish are not showing the same sypmtoms. Some are rubbing, some breathing hard, some gasping at the surface. All of the remaing fish are eating well and moving around in normal fashion. Some of them are showing no signs of ill effects at all. I am worried that the pathogen that has killed is still in there.
Questions
1. Is there any product that I can treat this tank with that will not harm the Loachs, Knife, or frog? I have a qurantine tank set up but the levels are not right yet for a transfer.
2. Who should I transfer to the quarantine tank?
3. Is there a good way of finding dead fish. I am at a loss. When one would not show up at feeding time I would spend hours looking for them, dead or alive.
4. Is there any hope for this tank or would you suggest a full tear down and rebuild?
Thanks in advance,
-Kyle