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Agassizii? Sex and ID please
- Thread starter LeeHook
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- Wiltshire UK
Hi all,
It is either "Steel-Blue" or similar ("Wagenflecken"). They are often sold as borelli or agassizii etc.
They look like males. The females have a black edge to the ventral fin, and much less blue on the bosy. Have a look at this (and linked thread) <http://www.apistogramma.com/forum/threads/apisto-id.17370/>
Behaviour might help, the males are pretty aggressive to one another.
cheers Darrel
It is either "Steel-Blue" or similar ("Wagenflecken"). They are often sold as borelli or agassizii etc.
They look like males. The females have a black edge to the ventral fin, and much less blue on the bosy. Have a look at this (and linked thread) <http://www.apistogramma.com/forum/threads/apisto-id.17370/>
Behaviour might help, the males are pretty aggressive to one another.
cheers Darrel
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- Brisbane, Australia
I agree that they are not agassizii but I am not sure what they are exactly. My guess for the sexes would be photo 1 male, 2 female, 3 not sure, 4 male...
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- Denver, Colorado, U.S.A.
They are probably A. sp. Wangenflecken. I would need to see a photo that shows the vertical bars on the flanks to be certain. Females have very dark anterior spines on the ventral fins. I don't see this in any of the photos. Females also don't show any red on the face. At 28°C/82°F, 90% of the offspring should be males.
Well these are the best photos I could take.
I noticed that the younger fish (2 of 7 total) show their vertical stripes sometimes. The older fish never. Only the horizontal line is visible and it fades in and fades out very often. Many times are totally pale.
As I assume that this must be a body language but I don't understand apisto language
I don't know if the water parameters has to do with this. Water parameters are:
Ph=6.3
KH=0,5-1 (100% RO water)
GH=8 (I put some discus mineral salts)
Tank=70Lt
I noticed that the younger fish (2 of 7 total) show their vertical stripes sometimes. The older fish never. Only the horizontal line is visible and it fades in and fades out very often. Many times are totally pale.
As I assume that this must be a body language but I don't understand apisto language
I don't know if the water parameters has to do with this. Water parameters are:
Ph=6.3
KH=0,5-1 (100% RO water)
GH=8 (I put some discus mineral salts)
Tank=70Lt
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- Wiltshire UK
Hi all,
The fish to the rear in the second photo looks like a female, you can see the dark edge to the ventral fin Mike mentioned.
cheers Darrel
The fish to the rear in the second photo looks like a female, you can see the dark edge to the ventral fin Mike mentioned.
cheers Darrel
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- Denver, Colorado, U.S.A.
These are A. sp. Wangenflecken. The bowed/arced vertical bars are a diagnostic feature for this resticulosa-complex species. It occurs on the Ilha de Marajó, the large island at the mouth of the Amazon. It is a whitewater species and an excellent 'beginner's apisto'. I have a group in a mostly barren (decoration-wise) 20 gallon long tank and still get production. I must have juveniles/fry of 2 or more different sizes in it right now. Anyone who has seen my breeding apisto program has seen my 'cesspool breeding tank' photo. The species in it is Wangenflecken.
