ID please

[Mustafa bozdag]

Exporter says these are A. Mortenhaler , but i can't any lnfornation about that ld. Please help pe for Id and genre?

 

[MickeM]

Female/s.. Apistogramma ortegai !!!?? (earlier called Ap.spec."papagai" ) But I`m not 100% sure ..
Here is a thread to compare with..
http://www.apistogramma.com/forum/threads/what-you-guys-think-about-these-apisto.7242/

 

[MickeM]

BTW.. it may also be A. cf. ortegai ..scroll down in this site and have a look.. ortegai+ cf. ortegai..
http://apisto.sites.no/page.aspx?pageid=53

Are they purchased at the same time? or from/in the same delivery?? wild-caught??
2nd pic/female look a little odd.. !!??? (caudal-patterns+ not as round in shape..flat/more straight "cut-off" ending of the fin..)

Any male-pics??

 

[Mustafa bozdag]

Thank you Micke, i'm pleased your concern.

Yes these two are purchased at the same time. Wild caught and same delivery.
Firstly i thought A.cf. ortegai but now im sure theyre not.
Saler says 1st pic is male, second is female, i think now wrong may be two of them same genre....
These are another pics for second fish.

And this is the pics from saler. May be its help.

 

[Mike Wise]

Well, to me the top fish looks like a female A. cf. ortegai (Pebas) and the bottom (2nd) fish A. ortegai (Papagei), probably a female. There is no species named A. mortentaleri. A. martini was originally sold under the commercial name A. sp. Mortentaler, but this is a very different fish from yours.