German guttata

[blueblue]

German guttata

 

[blueblue]

They don't look good???????
Essentially, it is the first pair of German guttata that
i acquired and this fish is quite rare in Asia

 

[Chris(wildcaught!)]

Hi blueblue. Yes they look good, thank you for sharing.

 

[peterK]

Obviously, they are nice!:biggrin:
Are they tank-bred or wildcaught?
If you say 'German Apisto' it almost always means that they are t-b, but they don't look so differently from 'normal' A. guttata.
Only male fish has a bit less number of small black or red spots.
I'd like to read your opinion, blueblue.

Piotr>>>

 

[Rolo]

Obviously, they are nice!:biggrin:
Are they tank-bred or wildcaught?
If you say 'German Apisto' it's almost always mean that they are t-b, but they don't look so differently from 'normal' A. guttata.
Only male fish has a bit less number of small black or red spots.

They are tank-bred from Wilhelm in germany. I have the same (but unfortunately my female died). But you're right, that there are no obviously differences to the wild form. The number of spots is variable and depends on size, age, food and dominance.

regards,
Rolo

 

[peterK]

Thanks Rolo

Piotr>>>

 

[Mike Wise]

A guttata is one of my favorite fish to keep. I got mine years ago from a friend who collected them from the Rio Morichal Largo. He also sent me some Nanacara quadrispinna. The guttata have a wonderful outgoing personality - and not especially hard to breed. Wild fish are hard to get because they do not occur in areas typically collected commercially.

 

[peterK]

Mike, if it's your favourite Apisto, and you say that they are not hard to breed I must buy them if I'll find them in my neighbourhood

Piotr>>>

 

[Mike Wise]

Yes, please do. Then visit Denver & bring some fry for me. I gave my F1 trio to the collector, who lost his fish. The next day my wild female died.

 

[Rolo]

I gave my F1 trio to the collector, who lost his fish. The next day my wild female died.

I have the same problem. ;-)
I gave my fry away and then my female died. Fortunately he still have them, so I hope to get back a female soon. The problem is, that most of the fry are male and just very few female.

And they are really nice fishes.

regards,
Rolo

 

[blueblue]

Hi blueblue. Yes they look good, thank you for sharing.

Thanks Chris. Oh.. your image is also a guttata

 

[blueblue]

Obviously, they are nice!:biggrin:
Are they tank-bred or wildcaught?
If you say 'German Apisto' it almost always means that they are t-b, but they don't look so differently from 'normal' A. guttata.
Only male fish has a bit less number of small black or red spots.
I'd like to read your opinion, blueblue.

Piotr>>>

Hi Piotr. Rolo has basically replied for me.
Hmm, yes, they are tank-bred and its red tail tells you that
it is a result of the color-enhancement by the reputable german
fish farm. I have not seen any wild-caught of this species
(i did see some similar ones from the mixed apistos but i
thought they might not be guttata given its special
and limited distribution region).

What i heard from some people and read from books is that female guttata has fewer spots on the body, compared to the male one...

 

[blueblue]

A guttata is one of my favorite fish to keep. I got mine years ago from a friend who collected them from the Rio Morichal Largo. He also sent me some Nanacara quadrispinna. The guttata have a wonderful outgoing personality - and not especially hard to breed. Wild fish are hard to get because they do not occur in areas typically collected commercially.

Thanks Mike for the supplement

 

[blueblue]

Yes, please do. Then visit Denver & bring some fry for me. I gave my F1 trio to the collector, who lost his fish. The next day my wild female died.

It's a typical bad story for apistos hobbyists ...
You know, from now on, when i am interested in a species,
i will get at least two pairs... the chance of keeping the
species for a longer time is more guaranteed as we have a backup

 

[blueblue]

I have the same problem. ;-)
I gave my fry away and then my female died. Fortunately he still have them, so I hope to get back a female soon. The problem is, that most of the fry are male and just very few female.

And they are really nice fishes.

regards,
Rolo

Hi Rolo, i know that some guttata could have very well-extended dorsal membranes... do you have some information and photos to show us how
far the dorsal fin can extend?? Some people say they could grow to a level
similar to A. sp. "Breitbinden"

 

[peterK]

Hi blueblue
Here is pic of male fish, which has nice extented dorsal fin, but not as much as A. sp. Breitbinden:
http://www.aquarium-dietzenbach.de/gallery/pics/suedamerikanischezwergcichliden/480042.jpg

And here is VIDEO of (between others) wild male A. guttata. He has a lot of spots on his body - more than your male:biggrin:

Piotr>>>

 

[Rolo]

Hi Rolo, i know that some guttata could have very well-extended dorsal membranes... do you have some information and photos to show us how
far the dorsal fin can extend?? Some people say they could grow to a level
similar to A. sp. "Breitbinden"

Here is a picture of mine, the male is adult and about 6cm large. Not a good picture, just a handy-shot. But you can see the dorsal fin. It's not as high as a Breitbinden. Maybe the dorsal fin can grow up some higher in good conditions and soft water, but I doubt, that it will reach the height of a Breitbinden.

regards,
Rolo

 

[blueblue]

Thanks Piotr and Rolo.

To Rolo: yours is very very beautiful (there're so many spots!!)
In fact, the description of its being close to Breitbinden is just
relative to other members of the mcmasteri group...
in fact, you photo is showing a male guttata which is close to
some Breitbinden (of course, we all know how impressive the dorsal
fins that some Breitbinden can have)

 

[blueblue]

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