Apisto confusion?

[CreamCrop]

Hello fellow apistogramma enthusiasts! I purchased 2 double red apistos a few months ago hoping to have a pair to later find out that i had two males. I then returned and got what i was told to be two female double reds. As color is developing i think that i might have a pair of apisto pertensis... yellow in coloring with black stripes and no bright red fins... I am a little confused. i have seen pictures of female double reds with other male reds and they look almost identical just a little smaller with similar red fins.. do some females turn a yellowish color? And if i have two different types of apistos can they get along? will they mate or just kill each other? a community of apistos might be cool! Can i get a couple different types together? Can i put trifasciata dwarf cichlid and Hongsloi reds together at all? thanks guys!

 

[henkh]

Pics would be helpfull.

 

[CreamCrop]

] This is what my male double reds look like

This is what my second pair are turning into(i think but could be wrong). And if you look at the tip of the back fin there is a little of the red pattern on it(?)

but then i also found this picture that shows apparently a female double red cacatuoides.. but kinda looks like the pertensis.. almost identical

 

[RustedKnight]

bottom picture looks to be a female cacatouides to me.

If you get some photos of your fish we can id and sex them for you.

 

[Mike Wise]

The bottom 2 photos look like females to me. The bottom one is definitely A. cacatuoides for sure (just not as bright as is the more colorful female). Too many commercial breeders don't select/cull the lower quality fish. To them quantity is more important than quality. This is often a problem with domestically produced color strains.

 

[Hmoobthor]

most of the color of on the fish are degrading but...they are female. Male double rred or any strain today I get seem to lack a bit of color in the tail.