Wild Import. Apistogramma viejita???

[ste12000]

Hi all/ Mike :biggrin:

A interesting discussion has started to develop over on the BCA forum regarding A.viejita.. Can you guys have a look and share your thoughts..

http://www.britishcichlid.org.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=5470

 

[Tom C]

.. Can you guys have a look and share your thoughts..

If I may put my two cents in; The following makes me think that your fish is not A. viejita.

- Koslowski (Mike Wise's translation): "... a rather elongated form with a narrow mostly zigzag-like lateral band without distinct flank spots"
Your fish seems to have a quite wide lateral band.

- Koslowski (Mike Wise's translation): "... the highly extended dorsal fin has a bright red border."
I see no red border on your fish's dorsal fin.

- Koslowski (Mike Wise's translation): "... The soft-rayed parts of the dorsal and anal fins are noticeably more elongated than those of A. macmasteri."
The actual fins on your fish don't appear elongated at all.

I would love to be wrong...

 

[Mike Wise]

An interesting topic - and interesting fish Ste. They don't look exactly like the typical A. macmasteri, but not like A. viejita either. I'd be interested to see photos of the females and the males when the settle in.

 

[Mike Wise]

This photo belongs to Ingo Koslowski and DATZ. It should not be used on the internet without permission - which I'm sure wasn't given. Can we remove this photo, please. ... and people wonder why I don't show some of my photos or apistos?

 

[Rod]

This photo belongs to Ingo Koslowski and DATZ. It should not be used on the internet without permission - which I'm sure wasn't given. Can we remove this photo, please. ... and people wonder why I don't show some of my photos or apistos?

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For those that are interested.....the same image....probably illegal???.....appears here....(in middle at bottom)
http://www.fishbase.org/Photos/ThumbnailsSummary.php?ID=46716

I'm a hobbyist....I make no money from my hobby....I like to share information
I apologise if I've upset anyone looking to make commercial gain from my interest...
I was simply sharing images freely available to any idiot with a computer who can use goggle

Please let me know the commercial damage done....and I'll send a cheque

 

[Mike Wise]

Thanks, Rod. The best method of using photos on the internet that don't belong to the poster is to do as you did the 2nd time: list the URL. DATZ allows fishbase to use their photos. The DATZ photos are the real A. viejita; the other fish are domestic, color-enhanced A. macmasteri. It seems that even a technical site like fishbase can make mistakes. They don't have experts on every type of fish.

 

[ste12000]

An interesting topic - and interesting fish Ste. They don't look exactly like the typical A. macmasteri, but not like A. viejita either.

I'd be interested to see photos of the females and the males when the settle in.

Hi Mike, all... Just a update on these fish, they did indeed turn out to be A.macmasteri.. Not a bad thing as they are a particulary beautiful fish.. The female brought out her first spawn today and its been the first real chance to photograph them. They have settled beautifully and its amazing what a few weeks of good water and live foods can do to the condition of a fish..