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element

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anyone keeping teleogramma ? i've always admired them but haven't pulled the trigger . due to aggression / limited tank space. any experiences to share?
 

tjudy

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I have four T. brichardi that I got from Jeff (aquaticclarity). Two males and two females. They are large enough to spawn, but have not done so yet. I am wondering if they are too young. Jeff's breeders were wild, and probably older than the fish I have when they spawned. I keep them in a 33 long with heavy aeration and current. Structure in the tank is provided by three long, flat terra cotta trays that are held off the bottom glass by stones and overlapped on each other to create narrow gaps between the trays. There is fine gravel in the tank, and the cichlids excavated a network of tunnels between the glass and the bottom of the trays. They are aggressive, but have not killed each other or any othe rfish .... yet. When/if they spawn I suspect they will get a lot nastier. I keep the water parameters at a moderate harness and neutral pH (TDS 200 ppm, KH 2 and pH 7).
 

Nebraska_cichlids

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Ted, any idea where to find Teleogramma species (brichardi, depressum) in the U.S.? I would like to set up a tank similar to the one you described. I looked at all the "typical" sellers/importers (Toyin, Tony Orso, Dave Schuhmacher etc.) but nobody seems to carry Teleogramma (at least not right now).
 

tjudy

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They are sporadic imports, usually being collected July - September. There were not many importations this year that I know of, but Tony Orso did list T. depressum (though I also heard that they did not hold up, and I know of noone who got some). Toyin had T. brichardi for a while, but I think he only had a few.
 

aquaticclarity

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Trust me, I've been looking at multiple "regular" import sources for Teleogramma since late summer and Orso was the only source that listed the fish. And like Ted said he didn't offer them for very long. I've still got the lone wild proven female T. brichardi that needs a mate and have been unable to locate any...other then Ted's!

Jeff
 

Nebraska_cichlids

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Ted, you are right: Tony O. listed T. depressum this summer. I was about to place an order with Tony, but learned from him that all the depressum died while being in quarantine. Not sure where the depressum were coming from and/or whether Tony will be getting another shipment. Well, get your's to spawn!!
 

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