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Need help with Apistogramma Fry

Discussion in 'Apistogramma' started by Pseudotropheus, Jun 23, 2019.

  1. Pseudotropheus

    Pseudotropheus New Member

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    Hello,
    I have a 20 gallon long tank with a pair of Orange Flash Apistogramma Cacatuoides.
    1st batch of fry - Removed dad, mom ate the fry
    2nd batch of fry - Removed dad, mom ate the fry
    3rd batch of fry - Removed dad, waited a couple of days and removed mom. Fry did not make it.
    4th batch of fry - Noticed them today, moved dad. Any suggestions on how long to leave the mom with the fry based upon her past behavior and your experience?
    Thanks
  2. dw1305

    dw1305 Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    Hi all,
    Was there a reason for removing the male?

    I have raised (well really left the parents to raise) hundreds of fry with both male and female(s) left in the tank.

    cheers Darrel
  3. Drayden Farci

    Drayden Farci Active Member

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    Don't remove the male. Just let them raise the fry together. If you don't have dither fish, get some.
  4. Mike Wise

    Mike Wise Moderator Staff Member 5 Year Member

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    Good advice above. Unless the male bothers the female just leave him where he is. Dither fish will keep the female with something to think about. Also feed the fry live food. They don't do well on prepared foods and you will start to lose them, which may encourage the female to eat the brood. Keep the female with the fry as long as she is still guarding them. Once she starts to drive them away it is time to remove the fry (or the parents) to another tank.
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  5. Pseudotropheus

    Pseudotropheus New Member

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    Thanks for the help!
  6. dw1305

    dw1305 Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    Hi all,
    It is the wriggle response that gets the fry to feed, if you have live food (BBS are best, but you can be successful without them) you can feed powered dry food at the same time and they fry should eventually start eating the dried food as well as the live food.

    Have a look at <"Apistogramma borelli fry food"> and <"cacatuoides fry food...">. I'm assuming that you are in the USA? but if you are in England I can send you some moss, live food cultures, tank janitors etc.

    cheers Darrel
  7. JoseF

    JoseF New Member

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    You didn’t mention filtration but assume this isn’t the issue sucking up fry. I have a set up with two small inverted clay pot caves either side of aquarium and sponge filter resting on top, well planted aquarium with driftwood etc. Mom raised fry herself just because dad died. Have Siamese algae eater, Cory cats, some endlers and another species Apistogramma—last not recommended. Mom cacatoides was excellent in my case herding and defending fry.
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    Not sure about your females, but my Alenquer and Red Agassizii asa well as Triple Red Cacatuoides start chase the Male straight after she laid eggs and male ffertilised them. Female knows that the Make is around and even she can't see him directly, she come from her space to find him and bite him.
    When I read comments that Female and Male raise fry together, I am quite surprised if you talk about Apistogramma or not :)
    Only first time ever I have seen such situation when females allows male to be near fry is Panduro. I got fry 2 weeks ago and really like them both looking after fry.
  9. Pseudotropheus

    Pseudotropheus New Member

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    Quick Update. Had another batch of fry about a month ago. Left dad in the tank and feed them egg yolk for the first 3 weeks. Have about a dozen fry that have grown like weeds! :)