Help to ID female Apisto

[scotth]

Hi I’m just looking for help please to get confirmation if this female is a macmasteri or not. I’ve purchased a couple of males & females from different sources and this female looks quite different to the others.
Thanks

 

[MacZ]

What the!?
This colouration is quite new. And they bred out all distinguishing colour features.
Well, actually they bred out all features.

 

[scotth]

What the!?
This colouration is quite new. And they bred out all distinguishing colour features.
Well, actually they bred out all features.

So do you think it is a female macmasteri then ? It’s really solid yellow compared to the other female i was sold.

 

[Frank Hättich]

This strain is known as macmasteri "Gold". Your fish looks like a female.

 

[MacZ]

So do you think it is a female macmasteri then ? It’s really solid yellow compared to the other female i was sold.

I trust Frank's expertise, I hadn't seen a fish like this before. Can't believe they bred things like this. Terrible...

 

[scotth]

This strain is known as macmasteri "Gold". Your fish looks like a female.

This strain is known as macmasteri "Gold". Your fish looks like a female.

Thanks for the info
I’ve previously kept over the years discus and various other tropical fish at different times but never had apistos and really wanted to give them a go.
I was sold the (gold Mac) female you ID’d with a standard male variant which I put into a 4ft planted tank.
I also purchased “I was told”another very young male & female Mac and a young pair of Borellii which I put in another 4 ft tank with redwood roots, leaf litter, caves and a sand bottom to grow them out before giving them their own tanks.
The males are no issue to id but these are the females I was sold which look very similar, I’m not convinced one is a borellii female ?
What’s are your thoughts please ?

 

[Frank Hättich]

I’m not convinced one is a borellii female ?
What’s are your thoughts please ?

They are all macs.

 

[anewbie]

I trust Frank's expertise, I hadn't seen a fish like this before. Can't believe they bred things like this. Terrible...

Usually the golds have a bit more gold in them and not quite so pure yellow but vaguely i think the colour gets richer as they age - while a bit of distance from wc origin they are quite common and popular in usa. I've not owned them as macs are larger fishes and not really my thing. I feel like they are a bit patterned after gold rams.

 

[scotth]

Usually the golds have a bit more gold in them and not quite so pure yellow but vaguely i think the colour gets richer as they age - while a bit of distance from wc origin they are quite common and popular in usa. I've not owned them as macs are larger fishes and not really my thing. I feel like they are a bit patterned after gold rams.

Thanks for the info it’s really helpful

 

[MacZ]

Usually the golds have a bit more gold in them and not quite so pure yellow but vaguely i think the colour gets richer as they age - while a bit of distance from wc origin they are quite common and popular in usa. I've not owned them as macs are larger fishes and not really my thing. I feel like they are a bit patterned after gold rams.

I found some on Ebay Classifieds this morning, but haven't seen this form in any store or website before. This type of breed is not very popular here, especially as they look almost like Labidochromis caeruleus "Yellow", which are THE most common and popular "yellow fish" you'll find in the freshwater hobby in Europe.

 

[Frank Hättich]

I found some on Ebay Classifieds this morning, but haven't seen this form in any store or website before.

If you desperatly want to buy some, here you find some pretty colorless ones (as well as a more colorful male)

 

[MacZ]

If you desperatly want to buy some, here you find some pretty colorless ones (as well as a more colorful male)

Yuck! WHY!?
I'm sticking to black/white with some dots of glitter (aka Dicrossus spp.), thank you very much.

 

[anewbie]

I might be mistaken but i think they originated from .cz

 

[MacZ]

I might be mistaken but i think they originated from .cz

Possible and doesn't surprise me.