Apistogramma sp. Doppelfleck/Double-spot

[Mpaw]

With shipment A.regani arrive few pieces of other Apistogramma, probably A. sp doppelfleck / double-spot. Photo of the biggest male below. Please confirm my identification this species.

 

[Mike Wise]

It probably is Doppelfleck. I'd need to see more photos in different moods and of females to be absolutely sure. Or better yet, send them to me to examine.

 

[Rolo]

Hi,

I'm pretty sure it's A. sp. Doppelfleck.
Volker Bohnet confirmed it also.

Mike, do you have pictures of females?

regards,
Rolo

 

[Mike Wise]

The only female photos that I know about are Volker's (like the one in the DATZ book). The caudal patch is rather unique.

 

[Mpaw]

Thank you for confirming my identification
Today I caught into a separate tank all potential sp.Doppelfelck, a lot of it is small size 1,5-2cm. I counted 15 pieces. Next photos soon.
Mike, when you can pick up shipment from Poland

 

[Mike Wise]

Let me check my travel agent!

 

[Mpaw]

Female ?

 

[Mike Wise]

Female? Yes, I think it is. Doppelfleck? Maybe not. The caudal spot is different. Maybe it is the photo or maybe it is some other species. Does the fish ever show a caudal patch - where the caudal spot joins the next spot on the caudal peducle?

 

[Rolo]

Have a look at the lateral band, Mike. Looks definitely like Doppelfleck, I think.

Regards,
Rolo

 

[Frank Hättich]

Does the fish ever show a caudal patch - where the caudal spot joins the next spot on the caudal peducle?

shouldn't the "second caudal spot" of A. sp. Doppelfleck be located more on the caudal fin, i.e. to the right of the caudal spot that one can see in the above picture, Mike?

 

[Rolo]

Yes, Frank. And due to this, I guess, the visibility is depending on mood very much.

Regards,
Rolo

 

[Frank Hättich]

yes I think so Roland - the male is showing the second spot only very faintly too.

 

[Mike Wise]

It's never easy to ID a species from only 1 photo. Doppelfleck should not only show the double patch but, being a trifasciata-lineage species, should also show a distinct lateral spot. Neither show on this photo. That's why I said, "Maybe not" and then asked if the double patch ever appears on the fish.

 

[Mpaw]

Thank you for your attention. I'll try to get better pictures, then it will be easier to see the details. Fish are fast and very easily scared. For now, I noticed that the likely females anal fins are yellowish, the males are slightly blue and more elongated. All are small 2,5-3cm.

 

[Mpaw]

Few new photo
Female

Female

Female

Biggest male

Young male

Female